The style of the new album.

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Sonya
00sabato 25 ottobre 2003 03:21

hello europefans:
Some of you know about the style of the Europe'new album?,I have read the new page but i don't know what means with "organic",and others...i would like to know WHICH STYLE THEY COME WITH NOW:
WING OF TOMORROW
THE FINAL COUNTDOWN/OUT OF THIS WORLD
PRISONERS INPARADISE..?
THANKS MAN.
Telis
00domenica 26 ottobre 2003 11:00
about new EUROPE cd
I think that new EUROPE'S album will not resemble with no one from the precedents!!! I think that's will have more music with very heavy quitars, less vocals and amazing fresh melodies...
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Irish mick
00mercoledì 29 ottobre 2003 14:16
Europes new sound
hey,

dont think that the new Europe sound will have "fresh new melodies" not while Norum is around[SM=x237810] , hes not the melodic type anymore. if you have Norums solo albums you will notice that they get progrssively less melodic as the years go by. this is topped off with 'slipped into tomorrow' which may want you to slip into a coma if you like 'melodies' as it has poor songs from start to finish with NO "fresh new melodies" and frankly is the worst album ive heard in many, many years![SM=x237814]

but that may influence the new Europe sound and if 'slipped into tomorrow' is on Norums songwriting mind. hopefully Joey wont allow him to collaborate-bearing in mind that Norum has never written a song with Joey for europe and still people want him back in the band

finally, the better Europe melodies we remember from the post Norum days are gone i think as KEE MARCELLO is omitted from the line up! hopefully Joey will come to his senses and [SM=x237820] [SM=x237824] BRING KEE BACK!!![SM=x237820] [SM=x237824]
Telis
00mercoledì 29 ottobre 2003 20:09
Europes new sound
[SM=x237800] I hope that EUROPE will not become again JOEY TEMPEST’S band. They are mature musisians all in the band. About NORUM I disagree… Maybe 'slipped into tomorrow' wasn’t the best of him, but the others were great melodically HARD ROCK albums. I think, if you speaking depreciatorily for NORUM, you don’t bring KEE back. KEE is great quitarist, but at 1986 was that lucky and NORUM, was that grieved far from his band. Mr Erdman didn’t want counteractive types in the middle. I hope that you love the band and no persons.
KEEP ON EUROPE
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Nessie
00martedì 4 novembre 2003 21:11
Europes Stile
hi everyone,
I do hope the band goes back to the "Wings" and 1st."Europe" stile,that old european rock sound is really good - be it with Norum or Kee.The're both great.[SM=x237820]
bryn mcgloin
00mercoledì 5 novembre 2003 15:14
I DONT THINK THEY WILL
i doubt nessie, remeber as soon as EUROPE changed in '85 it was a complete change for the best, and then we got the tfc.i reckon they will continue from prisoners in paradise.[SM=x237803]
Nessie
00mercoledì 5 novembre 2003 21:23
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You're probably right Bryn....oh well, all their stuff is great isn't it? Just their coming back is great![SM=x237804]
bryn mcgloin
00giovedì 6 novembre 2003 13:57
i agree
yeah the fact there back is great as long as they rock our eardrums, with their cool music. we will be in dream[SM=x237800] land
Nessie
00giovedì 6 novembre 2003 18:36
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RODRIGO
00giovedì 6 novembre 2003 22:38
Another Prisoners album???
Hello all eurofans in this world :
I am so glad about this coming back..but I'm not going to buy another prisoners album, it was so boring, had no emotion like TFC or OUT OF THIS WORLD, was raw and heavy yes...but not powerful.
I miss those albums when they explode your adrenaline at listening...Wing was good too, but from TFC they were better than ever...then came Prisoners in Paradise...and I said: "This is Europe???
what about all the powerfulness?
what about spectacular vocals like in Ready or not,Carrie or Ninja?.
what about the killing guitar solos?
what about Joey's breaking his voicelike in Carrie or on broken wings?

Rodrigo
Irish mick
00mercoledì 12 novembre 2003 15:10
rodrigo!
hey Rod,

i couldnt disagree with you more! i think you must be listening to a different 'POP' to the rest of the world, the album is a legend. i think you are a KEE MARCELLO hater. i on the other hand think that he was the best thing to happen to europe. getting the unmelodic and frankly poor guitatist Norum out of the fold was the best move ever! otherwise 'OOTW' would be a boring album.

where's the 'powerfulness and killer guitar solos from 'POP' ???
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Telis
00mercoledì 12 novembre 2003 15:43
KEE is GREAT, but and JOHN is GREAT!!!
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Rodrigo
00lunedì 17 novembre 2003 01:34
Europe's new album style...

Hello Irish Mick :

No, I do noy think kee is a bad guitar player,I was tlking about the new style and I was talking about Europe's albums styles,i like TFC and Out of this world, and I wait (maybe forever)that Europe will continues with the style of these albums, that is all Mick.
I do not know,what do you think if it takes those albums away from Europe's carrer?
For me Europe would not "exists"?

Write me anyone who thinks about this.
Rodrigo.
europe
00martedì 18 novembre 2003 13:08
Re:

Scritto da: Nessie 06/11/2003 18.36
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Well, I'd like PIP too, but it hasn't really that europe sound,but it's not a sound that I don't like.Tfc and ootw where really eighties albums,and PIP is a 90 so I think that's one of the reasons that is sounds different.I'm playing drums myself and I like the drumsound on PIP much more then on TFC and OOTW.Do you know when the new album will come out and if it will come out in the Netherlands?I really hope so,and I HAVE TO SEE THEM!!!!!
WildChild
00martedì 9 dicembre 2003 20:21
New sound
PIP was released in 1991... that's 13 years ago! It's very unlikely that [SM=x237820] Europe [SM=x237832] 2003/04 will sounds much like they did on PIP, not to mention the earlier albums.
So much has happend since PIP was released and the guys broke up, they have done so many different things, worked with different bands, made soloprojects and evolved both personally and as musicians. I think the new Europe album will have a whole new sound, a whole new feeling, but with the talent and energy that we know and love from the old [SM=x237820] Europe [SM=x237832]. Things change, that's just how it is. People change, the music scene changes, nothing remains the same, and just imagine how boring it would be if the guys released an album with the exact same sound as TFC or PIP!!?? [SM=x237806] If you listen to the 5 old albums, you will notice that they are also different in sound. I, for one, can't wait to hear the sound of [SM=x237820] Europe [SM=x237832] 2004! I know in my heart that it's gonna be good...[SM=x237823]
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lissa
00lunedì 15 dicembre 2003 03:51
Europe new style...
yeah !!!
We hope so,the only thing that i would like is...that Europe surprises us !!!.
Cause world will be expecting this, after such eighties success...(TFC)
lissa.
Wild Child
00lunedì 15 dicembre 2003 06:30
I am sure they will... and it's gonna be good [SM=x237804]

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Rodrigo
00domenica 4 gennaio 2004 00:15
DO NOT HAVE EXCUSES FOR PRISONERS...

ABOUT PRISONERS IN PARADIZE... I SAID IT HAS NO POWER AND I DO NOT LIKE THAT POWERLESS, I AM NOT GOING TO BUY ANOTHER PRISONERS.
EUROPE HAD ITS VERY SUCCESS WITH THE 2 MOST POWERFUL ALBUMS OF 88 AND 86. AND A 1991 ALBUM COULD HAD BEEN POWERFUL TOO, LOOK AT USE YOUR ILLUSION I & II BY GUNS & ROSES ARE FROM THE SAME YEAR (1991) AND LOOK AT ONE OF ITS SONGS LIKE "YOU COULD BE MINE" IS POWERFUL.
BYE.
RODRIGO
Wings_of_tomorrow@hotmail.com
00domenica 4 gennaio 2004 15:53
SHUT UP RODGRIGO
THE REASON WHY YOU THINK PRISONERS IN PARADISE WAS POWERLESS WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD NO CHOICE. THEIR MANAGEMENT WOULDNT LET THEM HAVE THE SOUNDS THAT EUROPE WANTED THEY WERE FORCED TO TONE DOWN THEIR SOUNDS. HOWEVER EVEN TODAY "PIP" IS STILL ONE OF MY FAVOURITE ALBUMS OF ALL TIME! SOMEONE WAS SAYIN ABOUT THIS ALBUM BEIN 13 YRS OLD BUT IF YOU LISTEN TO THE SOUND OF THE ALBUM THE QUALITY OF IT IS AS GOOD OR EVEN BETTER THAN THE SOUND OF TODAY. PLUS SONGS FROM THE ALBUM LIKE "TALK TO ME" AND "PRISONERS IN PARADISE" HOW THE HELL CAN YOU SAY THAT THEY DONT HAVE ANY POWER IN THEM NOT FORGETTIN "GIRL FROM LEBANON" AND "LITTLE BIT OF LOVIN"! MAN YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU CRITISISE ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS EUROPE MADE.

Lee T
(leading the europe revival in Wales)
Rodrigo
00domenica 4 gennaio 2004 21:37
Prisoners...? O.K.

Hello fan:
Well, what I will say you is...whatmpeople wants again about Europeis another TFC album like,look at the chats and boards.And I understands them, Just The final contdown are the words that givesn Europe the most successful never ever seen before...
And Personally I think THE FINAL COUNDOWN...IS THE BEST COMPOSICION NEVER CREATED...IN THE MUSIC HISTORY...in the music history...listen so well !!! challenging Bach,Bethoven, Mozart,challenging Rolling stones,Beatles or Queen and any music band of any kind of sound.
They did it so well that we think that sounds during 5:09 mins.WILL NEVER BE TOPPED...BUT THE SAME BAND THAT HAS CREATED.
Thank you
and hey believe me..Prisoners does not exist in the world of music.
Rodrigo.

Look at the page "www.europe-supporters-club.com" the tribute video to the song...it's great.
MiaP
00lunedì 5 gennaio 2004 09:02

Prisoners does not exist in the world of music



Rodrigo I think exactelly there is the dog burried.
This song - The Final Countdown - is so great that he wrote in the meantime his own story and all other great songs they did stand in the shadow of him. If you put on stage the spots to only one the others beside in the shadow you realise not and so it is too with the other songs of Europe: they are not realised caused on that one great and I would not wonder, if they are sometimes a bit fed off to listen always only Q. for TFC and are seen as the Band who made this one song.
Sorry dear, as great as he is - I see this more as a sad capital in the meantime and as they said in the interview: all others JT and Mic/Kee wrote are meassured on just this one and this is now really sad because Rock the night is a great song, and Superstitious is favoulous and Pip is great and Halfway to heaven in the same way.
I guess if TFC would not have been people outside would remain them more. That´s like - Scorpions wrote a mass of hits and mostly you remain more than one. If you say Europe people tend to remain only TFC.
Na, I hope this will change now. At least I hope the remaining in the backheads to this one will help them a bit to have a easy comeback on the rockheaven.
And I would not say "never" to something.

Mary
Rodrigo
00lunedì 5 gennaio 2004 23:39
For Mia ...about this outstanding song.
Hello MiaP:
I do not know where you live, but in my country (Argentina)Europe is well remembered only by old people (between 28-48) and it is right what you say if TFC would never have been...
Europe is almost the same TFC..saddly.
I think the same than you....
And I think too that only Europe can create another (or others)song like that...if it is not possible no band will do it.
Thanks.
Rodrigo.
THEY HAVE ALL TO DO IT GREAT !!!
MiaP
00martedì 6 gennaio 2004 09:51

Germany Rodrigo. And it´s the same here with people: mostly in this age-group who remain TFC.

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Keanu Tolkki (Finland)
00lunedì 12 gennaio 2004 23:26
The style...
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Hello fans,
well the style must already determined by them this time around, cause they are already recording, but i think the style must and have to be powerful like in the early 80's, i do not know if the same style...because Joey thinks that "time really carries the music",and I really thinks that Joey's thoughts made Europe change its style many times (so people can't knows Europe music). And that voices and chorus like in "Ready or not" or "The final countdown" for me...are a seal of Europe.
They can't take them off,No.
Go on Europe...thanks for your music and never give up, please!!!
Keanu.

Rony Gonzocco
00lunedì 19 gennaio 2004 15:27
Europe power style...
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Hello :
Yes I would like too..that they will come powerful like before but...I do not know...I really live in uncertainty these days.

God bless this band to make success....

Ronnie from Chile.

Spanish translation :
Hola :
Si,a mi me gustaria tambien que Europe vuelvan con la potencia que tenian antes pero..no lo se...realmente vivo en una incerteza por estos dias...

Ronnie.


Nicholas Novikov (noizze)
00venerdì 6 febbraio 2004 09:19
I'd want to listen to smthn' like continuation of PIP sound [SM=x237802]
It was great...[SM=x237832]
manolo
00martedì 10 febbraio 2004 21:55
prisoners...

hola fans :

che, prisoners in Paradise para mi me parece una verga,no se que quisieron hacer ahi, para mi es aburrido, no tiene power ni emocion como canta Tempest.
Yo desearia que vuelvan con el estilo tipo TFC o Out of this world, esta buenisimo.

Manolo.
tt0ni
00mercoledì 11 febbraio 2004 17:05
El prisoners es la repera
"Prisoners in Paradise" it´s a good AOR record IMO. A mi me flipan todos los discos. El "Prisoners" tiene la mejor portada despues del "Wings of tomorrow" y es un disco AOR bueno. A mi no me importaría que hiciesen otro así. Lo que sí me importa es que los próximos los saquen de diez en diez años.
ROCKON
00mercoledì 11 febbraio 2004 23:28
You have a point Ttoni. It would be sad if they'd release albums every 10 years. This will all depend on the promotional stuff and the airplay the new release gets, not necessarily having a smashing hit like TFC will guarantee a long term Europe. If promotion is good, we will surely see alot of Europe in the coming years. I hope so:).
Sunkan
00lunedì 23 febbraio 2004 12:35
PIP had powerfull songs
Hi!

This messages goes out to Rodrigo. PIP was powerfull with songs like Prisoners In Paradise, Girl from Lebanon, Homeland etc.. I also like Yesterday's News. If you just listen to the album without comparing it to TFC and OOTW, you'll see the album grows on you. It becomes deeper if you just give it a chance. I believe that the new Europe album will have a new sound and maybe we don't like it at the beginning but it will grow if we just listen. I hope that the new Europe album isn't being rushed to the stores, and that the guys took their time and released some songs they like and not the management but still I'm looking forward to the new album, it will rock for sure.

Cheers! [SM=x237809]
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